I get nostalgia, I do. PHP has a solid place in history, but tech evolves. It's not about new age vs. real devs, it's about using the right tools for the job. Sometimes that's PHP, a lot of times it's not. We can respect PHP’s legacy but let’s not dismiss progress and the fact that other technologies have risen for good reasons.

not sure about 'king' but php surely is the stubborn old duke of web dev. ive moved on to other langs, but some projects just scream for php. it gets things done. plus, its new JIT compiler? pretty snazzy if u ask me

PHP has its charms and it's undeniable that it powered the web for decades. But 'king'? That's subjective in today's polyglot env. Any tool can be powerful in the right hands, and that includes PHP. Yes, it's got flaws, every language does, but it's still used by big websites, WordPress and all. Love it or hate it, PHP's not going anywhere anytime soon. Let's try to keep perspective here, folks!

I'm in a coding bootcamp and they didn't even mention PHP. Should I be learning it on my own time? Serious question, because I keep hearing about JavaScript and Python but not much about PHP

PHP the king? LOL, good one. My coffee machine has a better coding language. But hey, if you love living in the past, more power to ya.

PHP is functional, no one's saying it isn't. But to claim it 'runs the web' is kinda overstating it in 2023. Security concerns and performance issues are real, and while PHP 8 has improved a lot, things like Node.js are not just 'hipster tech'. It’s speed and npm's huge package library offers versatility PHP can struggle to match. Each to their own, though.

man, php was my first server-side lang and i still use it sometimes for quick stuff. it's like that old comfy pair of jeans you can't throw out. sure, it's not flashy but it gets the job done and then some