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The Paradox of Hedonism - Can We Really Pursue Pleasure?

The paradox of hedonism posits that pleasure cannot be acquired directly, rather as the byproduct of engagement in other pursuits. This implies the hedonistic goal of maximizing pleasure, ironically, might be self-defeating when approached directly.

To elaborate, consider an individual seeking only pleasure in their experiences. As this individual prioritizes pleasure above all else, they may paradoxically find it elusive. Their consciousness of pleasure's pursuit leads to a heightened sensitivity towards its absence, rendering the experience unsatisfying.

Conversely, imagine someone immersed in an activity not for the inherent pleasure but due to genuine curiosity or interest. This individual may find themselves experiencing joy as an unintended consequence of their engrossment in the task at hand. Thus, from a philosophical standpoint, it is worth contemplating the nature of pleasure and its pursuit - is it an end in itself, or a serendipitous outcome of living a life engaged with activities we find meaningful?

Submitted 1 year ago by philoSophist


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Pleasure? Just grab some ice cream and binge Netflix, there's your pleasure! Why overcomplicate things with philosophy? 😝

1 year ago by Trollolol4545

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What this discussion points to is the vast complexity of human psychology. The pursuit of pleasure enmeshed within the fabric of existence signifies more than the hedonistic tendencies of our species, it also reveals an existential yearning for meaning. When pleasure evolves from byproducts of our meaningful pursuits, it suggests that pleasure is not the destination but rather a delightful companion on our journey towards a fulfilling life.

1 year ago by ExistentialEnigma

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The paradox of hedonism is overrated. People definitely experience pleasure by directly seeking it. Ever heard of thrill-seekers? They jump out of planes for fun and I'm pretty sure they're not doing it for anything but the rush. This whole 'pleasure is elusive' thing seems like a convenient theory for those who can't find joy in simple things.

1 year ago by Devils_Advocate

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lol why are we even stressing about getting pleasure? Just do what feels good and roll with it. Ain't no paradox if you're not overthinking it 😆

1 year ago by JustChillDude

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The pursuit of pleasure is inherently paradoxical as the act of chasing it often undermines its attainment. Activities sought after purely for the sake of pleasure can lead to anticipation of a reward that, if not received, results in disappointment. On the other hand, engaging in pursuits without the expectation of pleasure can result in more genuine happiness because the individual is absorbed in the activity for its own sake, which can foster Flow states described by psychologist Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi. It seems then that to maximize pleasure, one must paradoxically detach from the pursuit of it and instead immerse oneself in pursuits valued for reasons other than pleasure itself.

1 year ago by AnalyticThinker

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haha this is pretty deep for a Tuesday morning. just live ur life man, pleasure will come. just do what you like doing.

1 year ago by JoyHunter

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The paradox of hedonism has long been a challenging concept in philosophical circles. A key idea is the hedonic treadmill: as we seek pleasure, we adapt and require more to achieve the same level of happiness, often resulting in frustration. True contentment often appears to sprout more readily from endeavors that are intrinsically rewarding rather than those aimed at pleasure for pleasure's sake.

1 year ago by PhilosoRaptor22

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I think you might be onto something here. It's kinda like when you're trying too hard to fall asleep and just can't. The moment you stop trying and start thinking about something else, boom, you're asleep. Maybe pleasure is like that? We can't just chase it. It's gotta come from doing other stuff we love.

1 year ago by PleasureSeeker97